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RE: 156 Direct Injection - 165 bhp, 152lb-ft from 2.0 liters



Wait a minute, doesn't the new VW 1.8 put out 190hp? I'd say that's
mass produced engine, or are you just talking about non-turbo engines?

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From: owner-alfa@domain.elided [mailto:owner-alfa@domain.elided] On Behalf Of
Ryan Fellini
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 5:59 PM
To: alfa@domain.elided; nizam@domain.elided
Subject: Re: 156 Direct Injection - 165 bhp, 152lb-ft from 2.0 liters


> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 00:55:14 -0800
> From: Nizam Zambri <nizam@domain.elided>
> Subject: 156 Direct Injection - 165 bhp, 152lb-ft from 2.0 liters

<snip>

> While 165bhp from a 2.0 is not spectacular these days (Integra 
> Type-R's have 180bhp, albeit at 7800rpm), the 152lb-ft of torque is.  
> Remember the

ah, ha.  but, the new Alfa 2.0L JTS is a mass-produced engine, where the
195 HP 1.8L Type-R and latest 200 HP 2.0L Type-R (S) are not. Those
Type-R engines are hand built limited editions motors.. A more fair
comparison would be the mass produced 2.0L 160 HP i-VTEC Honda engine
and this new 2.0L 165 HP JTS Alfa engine. (this makes you wonder if the
147 GTA will be a 2.5L V6 as predicted or a 'Type-R'-ish hot version of
this new 2.0)

I'm just mentioning this because there were various articles that
pointed out that the Alfa engine is indeed the most powerful
mass-produced 2.0L engine in the World right now.. and the torque is not
bad at all. ;]  Way to go Alfa!

Now, why can't they bring over a nice 147 to the US with this engine...
We need a nice hatchback in this market now that we are getting this
foogly things like new Civic hatch and the Protege 5.  They are ruining
the original hatch appeal.. They look like mini-stationwagon/minivans
:<

take care,
Ryan
ps. speaking on hatchbacks, it seems the 147 and Peugeot
307 have inspired VW to make the Golf V a return to sportiness! :))

> original GTV6's (2.5V6) that had around the same amount of torque?  
> Also, the 2.0 JTS cars will lose a spark plug (no more TwinSparks) and

> have a compression ratio of 11.3:1 (!)

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